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Breeding Corner - In Excess
  by knightmare on Saturday, August 27, 2011 at 9:43:05 AM


Lets Send This Bargain Sire Out With A Bang

In Excess (IRE)   Sire Id 2975

After reading the recent news that In Excess has been pensioned I thought it was time to bring out the Breeding Corner and talk about this sire. With the advent of local bred racing in the sim the stock of sires like In Excess rose a little bit. So I am a little saddened I have not yet had a chance to breed to him in the last year or two but now it must be a priority. He was a great runner, he produced Indian Charlie and is a solid brood mare sire as well. There is a lot to like about In Excess so let’s take a look at him and try to send him off in the sim with a nice class of runners for an inexpensive sire.

Real Life

On the track In Excess was a classic distance runner. He scorched home in the mile and a quarter Suburban in a record time of 1:58.33. He would also win the Woodward, Metropolitan Handicap, Whitney and San Fernando Stakes during his career.  He won eleven times in his career earning 1.7 million in purses.

In Excess was pretty solid in the breeding shed as well. His most well known offspring is Indian Charlie but he also produced millionairs Texcess, Valentine Dancer, and Excessivepleasure. Musical Chimes, and Romance is Diane are also very good runners by In Excess.  His pedigree is very versatile being free and clear of Mr. Prospector and Northern Dancer. This shows in his real life offspring where a variety of dam sires produced well. The Northern Dancer sire line seemed to produce a couple more of his top runners but Mr. Prospector was right there, a Prized mare produced two very nice runners with In Excess.

In the Sim

In Excess has not been as successful in the sim as in real life. Unfortunately he has not been used a lot in the last few years averaging about thirteen runners a crop. He has produced a couple of graded stakes winners in the sim but none of his runners have earned over $500k on the track. He seems to produce as many turf runners as dirt runners and is equally as successful producing sprinters and routers at about a fifty – fifty clip. A Storm Cat dam produced his best offspring and a Diablo mare produced another graded stakes winner. Other dam sires that have produced good runners are Falstaff, Secreto, Copelan, and Doyoun .

It does seem that Northern Dancer line dam sires seem to produce a little more when used with In Excess. I also noticed that Secretariat is present in many of the pedigrees either in the dam sire or dam’s dam sire. I would look at other sire lines though like Mr. Prospector and even some sire lines that might be a little less familiar such as Copelan by Tri Jet out of Quadrangle mare. He also seems to do well with turf influenced sires like Doyoun. So there are several things to try with him.

I do plan on breeding to him and I think I will look at going a couple of ways. I think I will go with what has worked in the sim looking for a Northern Dancer line sire with Secretariat somewhere in the pedigree. Then I like the idea of crossing him back to some turf influenced sire lines.

If BPs or credits are no issue I like looking at some expensive sire combinations.  

In Excess X Danzig X Secretariat    or   In Excess X Dixieland Band X Secretariat

I also like Summer Squall or Dehere as dam sires with In Excess.

If  I were looking to take advantage of the Summer Discount I might look at a breeding like this

In Excess X Nashwan X Slip Anchor  or  In Excess X Royal Academy X Silver Hawk

I am not a fan of trying to breed a Bargain Bred with him. His end of week sire price of 62 points makes it difficult to match him with dam sires. Still here are a couple of suggestions

In Excess X Tinners Way X Slew City Slew  or   In Excess X Sultry Song X Flying Victor

In Excess I think will also make a good dam sire prospect. I think he could be a good dam sire to use with bargain runners. I would love to see simmers send In Excess out with a decent sized class of runners. He has only had 6 two year olds race so far this year in his last crop. Dig deep or breed him cheap let’s see what we can do for In Excess. Good luck and good breeding.



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