Out of Place (4614)
This week we take a look at a sire that poses an interesting challenge. He is producing in real life and he is not used much in the sim. His pedigree is not from a major sire line although his pedigree is full of great influences. That is where the challenge will come into play with the sim and also where we could use that to gain an advantage in getting a results from Our of Place.
Real Life- Out of Place is by Cox’s Ridge. His dam sire is Damascas, and his dam’s dam sire is Buckpasser. Go back one dam sire further to the dam’s dam’s dam sire and you have Native Dancer. Lots of classic influence on the bottom side of his pedigree. His dosage index is 2.56 and he excelled in route races. He developed well as a three year old winning five races although not stepping up to the top level yet. As a four year old he won the G3 Clark Handicap. As a five year old he did not win a race but he placed in the G1 Donn, G1 Iselin, G1 Whitney, and G1 Woodward. He would race twenty-five times in his career.
In real life he has produced one champion and nine graded stakes winners. His top runner this year was Nightmare Affair who has earned over a million dollars and just finished third in the Breeder’s Cup Sprint. He is getting a solid six percent stakes winners from foals of racing age. His runners do their best on dirt but he will throw a turf runner on you. They run short and long.
He has had success breeding to Mr. Prospector lines and Northern Dancer lines. More interestingly he has had success with other lines like the Bold Ruler line, the Ribot line and breeding back to the Turn-to line with Kris S.
Sim Life – Out of Place has around fifty-five to sixty active sim runners. At this point no active stakes winners. He does have a graded stakes winner and two other stakes winners with several other stakes placed retired runners. He has produced in the sim in the past just not recently. His top runners are by Miswaki, Caerleon, Silver Deputy, Nijinsky, and Theatrical. You see a trend of high priced dam sires delivering good results.
Half his active runners are six years old or older. Most of them contain the better dam sires paired with Out of Place. He does have a two year old out of an A.P. Indy mare that was not very good on the track. Still that two year old is putting up solid speed figures. Mostly he is bargain bred and that could be a reason he has not produced better recent times.
Breeding Suggestions – Lots and lots of ways to go with this sire who only gets down to 50 points at the end of the week. He has hung around that price for some time now and for a runner that has been an average of eleven times each year the past five years that seems a bit high. Hopefully that means there is some talent here and we can get some production for a nice price.
I think the Mr. Prospector sire line has produced better results with Out of Place than Northern Dancer but I really like both sire lines. I love Seattle Slew sire lines here as well as Ribot, In Reality, Nasrullah and Bold Ruler. I would like to target some high priced dam sires for him but many may not have those sorts of BPs but the ones I think fit are, Northern Dancer, Mr. Prospector, Seattle Slew, A.P. Indy, Secretariat, Danzig, Storm Cat, Dixieland Band, Danehill, Seeking the Gold and Gone West.
I think I might target some mid priced dam sire prospects for Out of Place. From the Northern Dancer line I like Secreto, Unfuwain, Sovereign Dancer, Royal Academy, and Chief’s Crown.
From the Mr. Prospector line I like Jade Hunter, Quiet American, Cryptoclearance, Our Emblem and Silver Ghost. From the Raise a Native line I also like Majestic Light, Majestic Prince, and Affirmed.
From the Slew line I like General Meeting, Septieme Ciel, Slew City Slew, Seattle Song, Event of the Year, Slewpy and Slewacide.
Out of Place (4614) X General Meeting (2397) X Secreto (5684)
Out of Place (4614) X Royal Academy (5451) X Majestic Light (3739)
Out of Place (4614) X Jade Hunter (3112) X Ribot (5300)
Out of Place (4614) X Pleasant Colony (4824) X Bold Ruler (735)
Bargain Bred – Out of Place can be used for bargain breeding. He might be a challenge though to get a good bargain. I prefer to use most of the points in a bargain breeding with the dam sire selection and with Out of Place a 50 point sire that makes that a little difficult.
Out of Place (4614) X Dixieland Brass (1698) X Blue Ensign (652)
What to Expect – Out of Place was a late bloomer running his best at four and five years of age. In real life though he is producing solid two year olds that are runner pretty well so it would be no surprise for his two year olds here to do well. He will likely produce a mix of both but I would imagine more than not his runners will develop later rather than sooner. He can produce sprinters or route runners but I suspect his best runners are more likely to be route runners. They will more than likely prefer the dirt but a few will do well over on the turf.
As always if you have any questions, comments, or sire requests please drop me a line at mcbwildcat@aol.com. Be sure to reference the Breeding Corner. Good luck and good breeding!
