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Breeding males
  by sabbath on Monday, August 09, 2010 at 11:56:36 PM


Is it good or bad to breed to a male in the game?

I’ve been taking a look at my highest male earners to see what impact that has on the new horse. I will only look at horses raced and bred. Below follows each horse and off-spring as well as comments on what might have gone wrong or right. (+ = better than average, 0 = average and - = worse than average)

Bustfully Not Raul (Seattle Slew/Bugle Note/Sea-Bird) $1,625,063
Tete Not Galileo (IRE) (Galileo/Seattle Slew/Bugle Note) $755,235
I used a great sire and got a really good horse from Bustfully Not Raul. Considering the wear and tear factor I probably got something better than I had. (++)

Pro Woody (Major Luck/Mr. Prospector/Rube The Great) $1,295,549
Tete Woody (IRE) (Singspiel/Major Luck/Mr. Prospector) $0
I used a good sire, not top of the line, but not bad. Pro Woody’s sire is though a horrible one. The off-spring became nothing – it didn’t even earn a single dime. It didn’t match Singspiel sire statistics, but wasn’t many dollars from matching Major Luck’s dam sire stats – how about that!? (-0)

Tete Novembre (IRE) (Noverre/Sadler’s Wells/Blushing Groom) $1,153,190
Naamah Novembre (IRE) (Danehill Dancer/Noverre/Sadler’s Wells) $94,659
I used a great sire. Noverre wasn’t all that bad in those days, so the effect from that wouldn’t be all that much. The horse turned out okey, but not what we all dream about having. I matched Danehill Dancer (before the upgrade) and out-ran horses with Noverre as a dam sire. (0+)

Tete The Undead (AUS) (Testa Rossa/Unbridled’s Song/Diesis) $1,057,839
Naamah The Undead (IRE) (Montjeu/Testa Rossa/Unbridled’s Song) $222,246
I used a great sire, so the pedigree is really great. The horse won 1 claim and 7 starters, so it might look a bit better than it really was. The horse turned out really well, when it comes to money earned, but it never was a star. It’s at least better than average for both sire and dam sire statistics. (++)

Lepaca Drakon (Kingmambo/Storm Cat/Wheatly Hall) $920,169
Teteverre (IRE) (Noverre/Kingmambo/Storm Cat) $162,766
I used a good sire, so the pedigree looks really good. The horse though didn’t become anything else than a decent allowance runner, but way over par anyway. It earned a lot more than those sired by Noverre and was par for as a dam sire Kingmambo. (+0)

Prospector Dancing (Mr. Prospector/Green Dancer/Meritable) $818,848
Tete Or Opera (T. M. Opera O/Mr. Prospector/Green Dancer) $135,750
I used a good sire, T. M. Opera O was way hotter back then. The horse had a short career, running in allowance with at least a couple of good runs over sp#100. It lived up to the pedigree though, better than others sired by T. M. Opera O, worse than those with Mr. Prospector as dam sire. (+-)

Ali’s Showers (IRE) (Ela-Mana-Mou/Raja Baba/Secretariat) $768,062
Tete’s Showers (IRE) (Galileo/Ela-Mana-Mou/Raja Baba) $134,153
I used a great sire, so the pedigree looks like somewhat of a dream. This horse also had a short career, running in allowance with at least a couple of good runs over sp#100. It won 25% of its races though. It’s an average Galileo horse, and way better than most with the same dam sire. (0+)

Gold Kingdom (Ogygian/Seeking The Gold/Lypheor) $759,692
Tetesagian (FR) (Sagamix/Ogygian/Seeking The Gold) $33,400
Since I really like Linamix I figured I would use its latest star, Sagamix. It was at this time a good sire, not more. Ogygian on the other hand has never been a good sire, and having it as the dam sire didn’t do any good this time. The horse won one race (sp#73) but had to end its career after 10 races. The horse earned over par for a Sagamix and on par for a Ogygian. (+0)

Tete Not Galileo (IRE) (Galileo/Seattle Slew/Bugle Note) $755,235
Nasu Not Galileo (GB) (Diesis/Galileo/Seattle Slew) $201,140
I used a great sire. The pedigree is all through great. After a pretty good allowance career it ran a sp#100 in a claim, which became the peak. It earned more money than the average horse, but didn’t turn out to something special. (++)

Tete Galactic (IRE) (Galileo/Blushing Groom/Caerleon) $603,865
Nasu Galactic (GB) (Diesis/Galileo/Blushing Groom) $51,425
I used Diesis again – my, am I predictable! Great pedigree didn’t help this horse though. It won 2 races and scored a sp#93 when ending up 7th in a allowance in Norway. That says it all! It became half as good as most horses with the same sire and dam sire. (--)

Summing up, it seems as if breeding to males is pretty good, as long as they are good from the beginning and their pedigree is good. Most horses turned out equal or better than one would expect. Eleven times the result was better than sire/dam sire, while four times it was worse.

The four times it was worse was both sire and dam sire for Nasu Galactic who only managed to earn half of what was expected, Tete Or Opera that was about $30,000 short for Mr. Prospector (but the horse had a very short career) and Tete Woody that lacked $50,000 to match its sire.

All those are balanced up by one horse earning more than $700,000. Without that horse it still would be better to breed to a male than the average breeding. On the other hand it’s not likely that you would get better than the ones you bred…

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